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ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome so that we no
ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a...
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was in january until we get to march, when we get to the debt ceiling conversation, when these entitlement cuts are on the table. i've said many times that budgets are moral documents. budgets are moral documents. when we get to this kind of debate in march about the entitlement cuts, then we're going to see how good this deal in january allegedly was. but something is wrong economic policy has you teetering on cliffs and bumping up against ceilings. that is no way to run the country or prioritize poverty. the bottom line is, president obama should do, number one, a major public policy address on the eradication of poverty. he starts out as the committee organizer, speaks eloquently about dr. king, has a bust of dr. king in the white house oval office, will be inaugurated on king's holiday. what are we going to do about pushing our president to give a major public policy address on the eradication of poverty? no. 2, then to call and convened a white house conference on the eradication of poverty by bringing the experts together, creed and national plan that can cut poverty in half in 10 ye
was in january until we get to march, when we get to the debt ceiling conversation, when these entitlement cuts are on the table. i've said many times that budgets are moral documents. budgets are moral documents. when we get to this kind of debate in march about the entitlement cuts, then we're going to see how good this deal in january allegedly was. but something is wrong economic policy has you teetering on cliffs and bumping up against ceilings. that is no way to run the country or...
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everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think overall, the market is trading like the market should off the things that matter to the market. the debt ceiling will be a short lift. >> i word when the average person gets engaged again. i wonder how many individuals at home are saying, hon fee, we own some united healthcare. we've been buying it because of obama care and we know everybody is going to be added somehow to be covered. i just don't see that type of interest to -- it's professionals that are trading the market. it's not -- individuals are still not in. >> i agree with you to a point. >> you say something about appl
everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have you nan hit in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled wit
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that...
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should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host: jason is a democratic caller in brooklyn, new york. caller: i think the debt is negotiable. it has been high before. host: what did you say? caller: it ought to be negotiable. i think obama needs to the finish his job. spending programs for poor neighborhoods and give other people a chance in this country. the tea party and right-wing republicans, it is obvious they are racist and nobody wants to work with them. in the next four years they have to get it right, because asians, hispanics, and african-americans make up the majority of this country now. so they had better get it right. host: the new york times
should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host: jason is a...
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. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. >> narrator: early on, republican freshmen attended orientation sessions. republican strategist frank luntz ran one of them. >> and i asked the question, how many of you are going to vote for the debt ceiling? and only three or four of them raised their hands. and i said, if you vote for the debt ceiling, the people who put you in office are going to knock you out. >> if you vote for the debt ceiling, you're voting for your own death certificate, political death certificate. >> narrator: for his part, the president decided to try something new: personal politics. he figured he could connect to the repub
. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt...
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." >> catherine: another battle the president is facing -- the debt ceiling. he called on congress today to act quickly to raise it.saying america is not a 'dead-beat nation' that doesn't pay its bills. he says the mere threat of defaulting on government obligations is hurting the economy. the government has hit its borrowing limit and is expected to run out of ways to pay bills by early march. most people have never heard launchers and other weapons. former president bush is finally released from a hospital. right now, 40's through daly city. as for the current temperatures? quickly dropping into the 40's. 44 in daly city. a 49 in fremont. but we are in for a nother round of the 30's and '40's again tonight. from the san mateo bridge we are seeing clear skies. the cold air mass with the combination of these things and a light went with cold temperatures and yet again the. taking a look at futurecast. widespread 30's. take a look a your screen. already 20's and 30's for the north bay. temperatures will start to warm up of but very slowly. still dealing with a
." >> catherine: another battle the president is facing -- the debt ceiling. he called on congress today to act quickly to raise it.saying america is not a 'dead-beat nation' that doesn't pay its bills. he says the mere threat of defaulting on government obligations is hurting the economy. the government has hit its borrowing limit and is expected to run out of ways to pay bills by early march. most people have never heard launchers and other weapons. former president bush is finally...
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. >> gretchen: then if members of congress can't agree on a deal to raise the debt ceiling, should we withhold their paychecks? interesting thought. right back in america tay we're running out of a vital resource we need to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the know-how we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure america's ready. make sure you're ready. at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪ at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪ savor and explore, a the great indoors ♪ ♪ ♪ friskies indoor delights. ♪ feed the senses. progress-oh! [ female announcer ] with 40 delicious progresso soups at 100 calories or less, there are plenty of reasons people are saying "progress-oh!" share your progress-oh! story on facebook. to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there'
. >> gretchen: then if members of congress can't agree on a deal to raise the debt ceiling, should we withhold their paychecks? interesting thought. right back in america tay we're running out of a vital resource we need to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help...
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >> march of '09. amazing, coming up on the four-year anniversary. >> do you ever worry about your paycheck? >> yeah. i think you worry about money you had in any bank account or anything. sure. ge was to cushifocused in the ff '08, that was the moment where it could all come to -- >> that was after the ge bailout. >> sorry, not to revisit the -- >> we have to remind people where we came from. tim geithner leaving, david faber is worried about his paycheck. >> speaking of paychecks, let's talk morgan stanley. wall street firm reporting fourth quarter earnings 45 earlier on squawk, james gorman said his firm is poised to improved market environment. whic
>> what it might have been had there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >>...
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how are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending under control. >> it's a compelling message saying we ned to pay the bills we've racked up. of it messes the whole point again. think of it in terms of a credit card. in you have a son or daughter who exceeds the limit, the first thing you do is rip up the card, the second thing you do is you say you need to change your spending habits. >> reporter: they say we need to a just what bills we are paying and how they are paying. jon: the issue of depending on disaster relief could provide tkraeupl drama there on capitol hill. >> reporter: speaker john boehner promised that the house would take up sa
how are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending...
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you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end of 2011, it was an issue where you're going to be watching on tv that the soldiers that protect our freedom, are they going to get their check? soldiers that came back wounded from the first gulf war, are they going to get their check? that is going to be the issue on the front page, grover, is it not? >> and august of 2011 we had all the same screaming. i did all the television shows where people said taxpayers are causing the problems. i said the president is. we won, he lost. we got the spending cuts which he's trying to fight still but he got his debt ceiling
you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end...
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with the debt ceiling, they could be downgrading the united states, the watch for that. once again the debt ceiling. i want to point out one thing. the last time we went -- whole drama about the debt ceiling, we got downgraded, do you know what happened to the interest rates? they went down dramatically. yeah. the -- treasury market actually went up. happened to be the same time that europe was going through its crisis. and -- the safest investment in the world seen at the time is still by many people in the world is the u.s. government debt despite the huge amounts of it we continue to borrow. >> are you still traveling around the world? >> yeah. i'm the chief international correspondent. fourth quarter was dominated by domestic news. i did travel in the fourth quarter. we are waiting to see if the italian elections with berlusconi should be interesting. waiting for chavez the die. >> that should be a party. >> always interesting. >> come back when you can. >> if you can stick around as much as possible so we don't have to talk to brian sullivan. >> i was trying to say
with the debt ceiling, they could be downgrading the united states, the watch for that. once again the debt ceiling. i want to point out one thing. the last time we went -- whole drama about the debt ceiling, we got downgraded, do you know what happened to the interest rates? they went down dramatically. yeah. the -- treasury market actually went up. happened to be the same time that europe was going through its crisis. and -- the safest investment in the world seen at the time is still by many...
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you as a member of the senate voted against a debt ceiling increase and in previous aspects of american history president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, president clinton, in 1997 all signed deficit reduction deals were contingent mon or in con connection with raising the don't ceiling. you done that four times. three times related to defecit reduction and maneuvers. what chuck and i are curious about that desire not to negotiate, when that contrasts with the modern american presidents and your own history on the debt ceiling because that suggests we will go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other how to resolve this? >> no, major. i think if you look at the history, getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year, but what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position, that we came within, a few days of defaulting. and you know, the fact of the matter is, that we have n
you as a member of the senate voted against a debt ceiling increase and in previous aspects of american history president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, president clinton, in 1997 all signed deficit reduction deals were contingent mon or in con connection with raising the don't ceiling. you done that four times. three times related to defecit reduction and maneuvers. what chuck and i are curious about that desire not to negotiate, when that contrasts with the modern...
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the vice president put in charge with republicans on the debt ceiling and brought in most recently for these 24 proposals that have been put forward on the gun control. and the vice president brokered that last minute deal being avoided at the end of the year. when you look at the obama presidency and four years from now when this history is going to be written, vice president joe biden is going to fill a roll in that history that is particular to him and larger than any other vice president we have seen before. really reinvented the vice president before that, they did not have all that much to do besides check on the health of the president. but really, the modern era now we've seen this change from administration to administration and clearly vice president joe biden at this point has demonstrated the height of that, the political confident and advisor and foot soldier with house republicans here who have said they have major problems with a lot of the things this administration is laying out. >> tom is live right there front row seat for the swearing in ceremony at the capitol. tha
the vice president put in charge with republicans on the debt ceiling and brought in most recently for these 24 proposals that have been put forward on the gun control. and the vice president brokered that last minute deal being avoided at the end of the year. when you look at the obama presidency and four years from now when this history is going to be written, vice president joe biden is going to fill a roll in that history that is particular to him and larger than any other vice president we...
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>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant t ce could issue bonds for chunks of money not related to every single law that was passed. it was just because it was cumbersome. it is not a debt control or spending control measure. the president used an analogy today, used many, to say this is like eating at a restaurant, having your fill and not paying the bill. if you want to discuss -- >> dine and dash. >> yes, dine and dash. we have two problems. one is we have to understand the terms of this thing. this is about increasing the treasury's ability to pay for things that have already been committed to by the government. the danger is if you have
>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant...
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by leastnd we've had the political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely will not
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. unanimitydon't have in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled with b
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that...
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gohmert: so we had a debt ceiling bill that was undermined from the beginning, no deal was reached, sequestration, massive cuts to our national security, our national defense. would be inflicted. and massive cuts to medicare. our leaders responded to me that , gee, the democrats will never allow the cuts to medicare, the sequestration to medicare, $300 billion or so, they'll never allow that. that's why we know the supercommittee will reach an agreement. i advised them that that would not happen. there would be no agreement. of course they're willing to have $300 billion or so cut to medicare because obamacare cut $00 billion from medicare, from our seniors' care, without a single republican vote. so the only way the democrats could run a commercial last year, 2012 with any sincerity at all saying, gee, republicans are cutting medicare, would be if they prevent republicans from reaching agreement with the president, democrats, and then they'll run in in commercials in 2012 and blame republicans and say, see, they didn't reach an agreement. they wanted to cut seniors and help their rich friends. a
gohmert: so we had a debt ceiling bill that was undermined from the beginning, no deal was reached, sequestration, massive cuts to our national security, our national defense. would be inflicted. and massive cuts to medicare. our leaders responded to me that , gee, the democrats will never allow the cuts to medicare, the sequestration to medicare, $300 billion or so, they'll never allow that. that's why we know the supercommittee will reach an agreement. i advised them that that would not...
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>> i think if they want to go with a clean debt ceiling race, he has to mike a final resolution. the public, not the republicans, the public wants spending cuts. he needs to go along with sequestration and find ways to cut government, shows that republicans are doing anything. boehner is a survivor, not really a leader. >> we'll have more after this break on the two presidents. what are the president's biggest challenges he faces going into this second term? stay with us. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. ya. alright, another one just like that. right in the old bucket. g
>> i think if they want to go with a clean debt ceiling race, he has to mike a final resolution. the public, not the republicans, the public wants spending cuts. he needs to go along with sequestration and find ways to cut government, shows that republicans are doing anything. boehner is a survivor, not really a leader. >> we'll have more after this break on the two presidents. what are the president's biggest challenges he faces going into this second term? stay with us. at 1:45,...
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ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >>steve: there you've got the president, back then senator, back in the day saying that president of ours, he's running up the bills, and it would be unpatriotic what he's doing. and we cannot raise the debt limit. forward to his administration, and i think this is going to be the fourth time he has asked cong
ceiling. remember, president bush was in office at the time, so senator obama would probably be against some of the things he was talking about, particularly the debt ceiling. the senator called it irresponsible to increase the debt. listen to then-senator obama. >> the problem is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents....
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really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany, the percentive of their exporting that figures into their total economy is so much larger, for example, than the u.s. our numbers are reasonable and our growth is substantial. we went from 1 trillion to basically 1.5 trillion. the point is they are great trades out there. the traders op these floor now have more spread on currency cross charts in their folios to get ready to strat jaegize. there's a lot of hedging. this is something to watch. when the 2012 figures come out we are going to look at them apd we're going to try to gauge exactly how much of a for
really is story is about growth just like with our debt ceiling. it's not about how you go about the messiness to fix it. it really should be about the debt ceiling itself. i'm sure the germans are particular. they had a good 2012. i expect these numbers to go up a bit. i look at german manufacturers like mercedes benz, vovolkswage. japanese exporters like nissan, toyota. i think the battlefield first and foremost is going to be on the war side on the export side. remember, japan achbd germany,...